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Hmmm, Luk, do you really think there is a significant difference between a photo being 12 years old and 19 years old? We can barely tell it's Agassi in the 2006 photo, let alone how recent the photo is :D Surtsicna (talk) 00:06, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That happens to all players over time. Djokovic will soon be relegated to ho hum also. It's sad. As for the subjective term of goat, it should not be in these articles at all. Both Agassi and Djokovic articles should simply say they are considered great returners or at most among the greatest of returners. Nothing more. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:33, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In Andre's father's book, he discusses his family history and states both sides of his family are Armenian. Neither Andre or Emmanuel make any mention of being Assyrian in either of their respective biographies. This appears to be a case of false information being forked by other sources, which mistakenly believe it to be true. Emmanuel Agassi apparently could speak Assyrian and attended some Assyrian-American cultural events, which may be the origin of the factoid. But he makes it clear his father was an Armenian from Kiev and his mother was an Armenian from somewhere in Ottoman Armenia. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Fyunck(click), could you let me know which of the changes I made to the table in this article are of concern to you? Was it the addition of row and column scopes? The addition of a caption? Making the opponent column sort correctly by player name? Thanks. Bsherr (talk) 18:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those tables have longstanding consensus per guidelines at Wikiproject Tennis. There is consistency for countless thousands of tables. If coding can be updated without changing appearance it's fine, but other wise no. Win/Loss is standard, with no centering. The colors are standardized. The event should not be centered and it is never bolded per wikipedia standards of over-bolding. Also, when you have a section header that says the same thing, a caption in this instance is overkill. The help with player sorting was fine. The changes you made would need to go through months of vetting at Tennis Project. You are welcome to bring it up there to change thousands of articles. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely. But using scope and changing headers does not have to change the appearance of the table. We do it all the time at tennis project. There is also consistency among 1000s of other tables, or poor readability for sighted users. We look at all of that. I said, if you change the coding to match accessibility and it looks the same, we have no issues. If you change the look there is a problem. Look at current tennis players like Djokovic or Swiatek. Fyunck(click) (talk) 17:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you familiar with Wikipedia:Consistency. Are you familiar with Wikipedia:Consensus? Are you familiar with Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis/Article guidelines? Are you familiar with MOS:NOBOLD? Are you familiar with Wikipedia:Advanced table formatting? We could do this till the cows come home. That chart's appearance has longstanding consensus and cannot be changed without extensive discussions. Coding can change but keep the look the same. I can't be clearer than that. You realize that row and column scopes are not required, right? We have had screen readers checks on most of our tables and they do great. Is it fine to use them for even better accessibility... sure. Knock yourself out. No problem with that as this is an older table for a long-retired player that hasn't gone through every update. But the visual appearance should be pretty much identical with regard to links, alignment, bolding, wording, colors, etc... Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:15, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]